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Delphi 10 Voice keyboard entry (Dictation) crashes app  
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  Posted: Dec 10, 2015 12:06 PM
voice , dictation , keyboard , input
If you enable dictation on IPAD and try and use voice entry or tedit or tmemo, application crashes. It works if you set control type to platform, but 3rd party controls (Such as TMS) do not have the control type property.

Has anyone got voice input to work (Or at least not crash) leaving control type as default value of styled?

I have several customers that want this capability

Bill B
Markus Humm

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Re: Delphi 10 Voice keyboard entry (Dictation) crashes app  
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  Posted: Dec 10, 2015 1:24 PM   in response to: William Brookfi... in response to: William Brookfi...
Am 10.12.2015 um 21:06 schrieb William Brookfield:
If you enable dictation on IPAD and try and use voice entry or tedit or tmemo, application crashes. It works if you set control type to platform, but 3rd party controls (Such as TMS) do not have the control type property.

Has anyone got voice input to work (Or at least not crash) leaving control type as default value of styled?

I have several customers that want this capability

Bill B

Hello,

as statement like "the application crashes" is a bit too general. Are
there any specific failure messages? If run via debugger, does that one
tell any exception or show a stacktrace or whatever?

Greetings

Markus
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Re: Delphi 10 Voice keyboard entry (Dictation) crashes app  
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  Posted: Dec 11, 2015 11:44 AM   in response to: Markus Humm in response to: Markus Humm
Markus,

I cannot run in Delphi debug mode as the program is built for ADHOC and the client only provided their distribution cert not their development cert.
I can try and see what is going on via the MAC XCode tools.

There is not error messages the app just quits.

Here is part of trace log from mac

Incident Identifier: F022F11C-1002-45B2-9298-C19461800DB4
CrashReporter Key: 0acfa7f9f6bc0485b00bd9450efd637830f49316
Hardware Model: iPad4,1
Process: btkeyboardtest [548]
Path: /private/var/mobile/Containers/Bundle/Application/3EB180AD-0C77-4388-B3F7-5782E480D13E/btkeyboardtest.app/btkeyboardtest
Identifier: btkeyboardtest
Version: 1.0.0 (1.0)
Code Type: ARM (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [1]

Date/Time: 2015-12-10 14:59:26.26 -0500
Launch Time: 2015-12-10 14:59:16.16 -0500
OS Version: iOS 9.2 (13C75)
Report Version: 105

Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY
Triggered by Thread: 0

Last Exception Backtrace:
0 CoreFoundation 0x22fda2eb __exceptionPreprocess + 127
1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x227a6dff objc_exception_throw + 38
2 CoreFoundation 0x22fda1c1 +[NSException raise:format:arguments:] + 104
3 Foundation 0x237b0d3b -[NSAssertionHandler handleFailureInMethod:object:file:lineNumber:description:] + 90
4 UIKit 0x278a952f -[UIDictationController _getBestHypothesisRangeGivenHintRange:inputDelegate:hypothesisRange:documentTextInRange:] + 150
5 UIKit 0x278a99dd -[UIDictationController _updateFromSelectedTextRange:withNewHypothesis:] + 220
6 UIKit 0x278a77d7 __40-[UIDictationController cancelDictation]_block_invoke + 38
7 UIKit 0x278a7a27 -[UIDictationController performIgnoringDocumentChanges:] + 30
8 UIKit 0x278a5d0b -[UIDictationController _runFinalizeOperation] + 42
9 UIKit 0x278a5ff5 -[UIDictationController setState:] + 516
10 UIKit 0x278a7797 -[UIDictationController cancelDictation] + 782
11 UIKit 0x2719fac5 +[UIDictationController keyboardWillChangeFromDelegate:toDelegate:] + 88
12 UIKit 0x2719eead -[UIKeyboardImpl setDelegate:force:] + 772
13 UIKit 0x27198993 -[UIPeripheralHost(UIKitInternal) _reloadInputViewsForResponder:] + 1282
14 UIKit 0x27281129 -[UIResponder _finishResignFirstResponder] + 240
15 UIKit 0x272222a7 -[UIResponder resignFirstResponder] + 150
16 UIKit 0x2729f6d5 -[UIView(Hierarchy) _removeFirstResponderFromSubtree] + 180
17 UIKit 0x27473f27 __UIViewWillBeRemovedFromSuperview + 70
18 UIKit 0x2716b24d -[UIView(Hierarchy) removeFromSuperview] + 76
19 btkeyboardtest 0x00bd3a7f DispatchToImportSuper + 74
20 btkeyboardtest 0x0079fa03 0x44000 + 7715331
21 btkeyboardtest 0x008301f7 Fmx::Forms::TCommonCustomForm::DestroyHandle() (FMX.Forms.pas:2752)
22 btkeyboardtest 0x0083b409 Fmx::Forms::TCustomForm::DestroyHandle() (FMX.Forms.pas:5690)
23 btkeyboardtest 0x0082c2b3 Fmx::Forms::TCommonCustomForm::~TCommonCustomForm() (FMX.Forms.pas:2671)
24 btkeyboardtest 0x0083a1b1 Fmx::Forms::TCustomForm::~TCustomForm() (FMX.Forms.pas:5621)
25 btkeyboardtest 0x0004c03b System::TObject::DisposeOf() (System.pas:16271)
26 btkeyboardtest 0x002176bf System::Classes::TComponent::DestroyComponents() (System.Classes.pas:15647)
27 btkeyboardtest 0x0084a143 Fmx::Forms::DoneApplication() (FMX.Forms.pas:1319)
28 btkeyboardtest 0x0008fd45 System::Sysutils::DoExitProc() (System.SysUtils.pas:5836)
29 btkeyboardtest 0x0005a3c9 System::_Halt0() (System.pas:23964)
30 btkeyboardtest 0x00052841 System::_Halt(int) (System.pas:24065)
31 btkeyboardtest 0x000a202f System::Sysutils::ExceptHandler(System::TObject*, void*) (System.SysUtils.pas:22208)
32 btkeyboardtest 0x0005c2a1 System::_UnhandledException() (System.pas:24107)
33 btkeyboardtest 0x00bd393f main (btkeyboardtest.dpr:15)
34 dyld 0x1fe41eeb dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**, unsigned long*) + 4362


Bill B

Markus Humm wrote:
Am 10.12.2015 um 21:06 schrieb William Brookfield:
If you enable dictation on IPAD and try and use voice entry or tedit or tmemo, application crashes. It works if you set control type to platform, but 3rd party controls (Such as TMS) do not have the control type property.

Has anyone got voice input to work (Or at least not crash) leaving control type as default value of styled?

I have several customers that want this capability

Bill B

Hello,

as statement like "the application crashes" is a bit too general. Are
there any specific failure messages? If run via debugger, does that one
tell any exception or show a stacktrace or whatever?

Greetings

Markus

Edited by: William Brookfield on Dec 11, 2015 2:49 PM
Markus Humm

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Re: Delphi 10 Voice keyboard entry (Dictation) crashes app [Edit]  
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  Posted: Dec 11, 2015 1:11 PM   in response to: William Brookfi... in response to: William Brookfi...
Am 11.12.2015 um 20:51 schrieb William Brookfield:
Markus,

I cannot run in Delphi debug mode as the program is built for ADHOC and the client only provided their distribution cert not their development cert.
I can try and see what is going on via the MAC XCode tools.

Hello,

1. please post your answers below the text you're answering to the next
time. it is regarded standard in such newsgroups as this one here.
This medium is not e-mail where top posting is the norm.

2. Not being an iOS expert this line of your stacktracke:
[NSException raise:format:arguments:]

indicates to me that there might be some format string involved
which has not been handled properly?
Does your app use format strings somewhere?

Greetings

Markus
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Re: Delphi 10 Voice keyboard entry (Dictation) crashes app [Edit]  
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  Posted: Dec 11, 2015 9:19 PM   in response to: Markus Humm in response to: Markus Humm
Markus Humm wrote:
Am 11.12.2015 um 20:51 schrieb William Brookfield:
Markus,

I cannot run in Delphi debug mode as the program is built for ADHOC and the client only provided their distribution cert not their development cert.
I can try and see what is going on via the MAC XCode tools.

Hello,

1. please post your answers below the text you're answering to the next
time. it is regarded standard in such newsgroups as this one here.
This medium is not e-mail where top posting is the norm.

2. Not being an iOS expert this line of your stacktracke:
[NSException raise:format:arguments:]

indicates to me that there might be some format string involved
which has not been handled properly?
Does your app use format strings somewhere?

Greetings

Markus

Sorry for the faux pas on replying.

My test app consists of just a Tedit and a Tmemo.
click into the Tedit, click the microphone, say "hello" and the app crashes. If I set the controltype property on the Tedit to platform, it works.

Bill B

Edited by: William Brookfield on Dec 12, 2015 12:20 AM
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Re: Delphi 10 Voice keyboard entry (Dictation) crashes app [Edit]  
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  Posted: Dec 12, 2015 7:41 AM   in response to: William Brookfi... in response to: William Brookfi...
I tried it and can confirm that app crashes when edit and memo are in Styled mode and works when in Platform mode.

Obviously, the non-native Firemonkey edit and memo were never designed to work with voice recognition.

Since I paid my $99 to Apple I can debug the app, but I can see you are never going get it to work with the styled controls.

Why cant you use the "Platform" setting? The controls seem to fit in and work with the rest of firemonkey.
Markus Humm

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Re: Delphi 10 Voice keyboard entry (Dictation) crashes app [Edit]  
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  Posted: Dec 12, 2015 8:07 AM   in response to: Douglas Rudd in response to: Douglas Rudd
Am 12.12.2015 um 16:41 schrieb Douglas Rudd:
I tried it and can confirm that app crashes when edit and memo are in Styled mode and works when in Platform mode.

Obviously, the non-native Firemonkey edit and memo were never designed to work with voice recognition.

Since I paid my $99 to Apple I can debug the app, but I can see you are never going get it to work with the styled controls.

Why cant you use the "Platform" setting? The controls seem to fit in and work with the rest of firemonkey.

Hello,

if it doesn't work with the styled ones I guess they have a bug, right?

If so, please (more directed at the original poster) fill in an issue on
quality.embarcadero.com
Just use your EDN login to log in. You might also want to post the
URL/issue number here so we can look into it any might help to improve
the contents of it or vote for it.

Greetings

Markus
William Brookfi...

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Re: Delphi 10 Voice keyboard entry (Dictation) crashes app [Edit]  
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  Posted: Dec 14, 2015 6:51 AM   in response to: Markus Humm in response to: Markus Humm
Markus Humm wrote:
Am 12.12.2015 um 16:41 schrieb Douglas Rudd:
I tried it and can confirm that app crashes when edit and memo are in Styled mode and works when in Platform mode.

Obviously, the non-native Firemonkey edit and memo were never designed to work with voice recognition.

Since I paid my $99 to Apple I can debug the app, but I can see you are never going get it to work with the styled controls.

Why cant you use the "Platform" setting? The controls seem to fit in and work with the rest of firemonkey.

Hello,

if it doesn't work with the styled ones I guess they have a bug, right?

If so, please (more directed at the original poster) fill in an issue on
quality.embarcadero.com
Just use your EDN login to log in. You might also want to post the
URL/issue number here so we can look into it any might help to improve
the contents of it or vote for it.

Greetings

Markus

I did post to QC here is the link

https://quality.embarcadero.com/browse/RSP-13152

Bill B
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Re: Delphi 10 Voice keyboard entry (Dictation) crashes app [Edit]  
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  Posted: Dec 29, 2015 9:49 AM   in response to: William Brookfi... in response to: William Brookfi...
William Brookfield wrote:
Markus Humm wrote:
Am 12.12.2015 um 16:41 schrieb Douglas Rudd:
I tried it and can confirm that app crashes when edit and memo are in Styled mode and works when in Platform mode.

Obviously, the non-native Firemonkey edit and memo were never designed to work with voice recognition.

Since I paid my $99 to Apple I can debug the app, but I can see you are never going get it to work with the styled controls.

Why cant you use the "Platform" setting? The controls seem to fit in and work with the rest of firemonkey.

Hello,

if it doesn't work with the styled ones I guess they have a bug, right?

If so, please (more directed at the original poster) fill in an issue on
quality.embarcadero.com
Just use your EDN login to log in. You might also want to post the
URL/issue number here so we can look into it any might help to improve
the contents of it or vote for it.

Greetings

Markus

I did post to QC here is the link

https://quality.embarcadero.com/browse/RSP-13152

Bill B

No activity on posted issue at .embarcadero QC. I was hoping to have at least a fix where the application does not crash.
William Brookfi...

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Re: Delphi 10 Voice keyboard entry (Dictation) crashes app [Edit]  
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  Posted: Jan 13, 2016 1:50 PM   in response to: William Brookfi... in response to: William Brookfi...
William Brookfield wrote:
William Brookfield wrote:
Markus Humm wrote:
Am 12.12.2015 um 16:41 schrieb Douglas Rudd:
I tried it and can confirm that app crashes when edit and memo are in Styled mode and works when in Platform mode.

Obviously, the non-native Firemonkey edit and memo were never designed to work with voice recognition.

Since I paid my $99 to Apple I can debug the app, but I can see you are never going get it to work with the styled controls.

Why cant you use the "Platform" setting? The controls seem to fit in and work with the rest of firemonkey.

Hello,

if it doesn't work with the styled ones I guess they have a bug, right?

If so, please (more directed at the original poster) fill in an issue on
quality.embarcadero.com
Just use your EDN login to log in. You might also want to post the
URL/issue number here so we can look into it any might help to improve
the contents of it or vote for it.

Greetings

Markus

I did post to QC here is the link

https://quality.embarcadero.com/browse/RSP-13152

Bill B

No activity on posted issue at .embarcadero QC. I was hoping to have at least a fix where the application does not crash.


Partial fix found by another user (Thank you) and is documented in the QC report RSP-13152. Prevents Crash, and shows spoken text, but only after you click done on keyboard. So sad that Embarcadero does not supply a fix for this.
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Re: Delphi 10 Voice keyboard entry (Dictation) crashes app  
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  Posted: Jan 21, 2016 1:19 PM   in response to: William Brookfi... in response to: William Brookfi...
William Brookfield wrote:
If you enable dictation on IPAD and try and use voice entry or tedit or tmemo, application crashes. It works if you set control type to platform, but 3rd party controls (Such as TMS) do not have the control type property.

Has anyone got voice input to work (Or at least not crash) leaving control type as default value of styled?

I have several customers that want this capability

Bill B

There is a Partial fix that can be used. Not pretty, but does work if anyone is desperate to have voice input on styled text input controls. Please refer to QC report below for details in comments section.

https://quality.embarcadero.com/browse/RSP-13152

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