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  Posted: Mar 2, 2015 10:09 PM
Hi,
I think within April, we can expect Delphi XE8 release from Embarcadreo. And Can we expect the reduction of the size of the Android application as the Android is occupying more space which is explained in this link [http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26814660/reg-the-size-of-android-app-in-delphi] .
Creating application for Windows Phone is not there and will this functionality will be released.?
And 64 bit iOs will be given in the release of the Delphi version.?
And When is the next release of the Delphi Version.?

Edited by: sathiya narayanan on Mar 3, 2015 1:16 AM
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  Posted: Mar 3, 2015 12:50 PM   in response to: Delphi Developer in response to: Delphi Developer
Delphi Developer wrote:
I think within April, we can expect Delphi XE8 release from Embarcadreo.

What makes you think that? No such announcement has ben made yet.

And Can we expect the reduction of the size of the Android application as
the Android is occupying more space which is explained in this link
[http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26814660/reg-the-size-of-android-app-in-delphi] .

Only Embarcadero can answer that.

Creating application for Windows Phone is not there and will this functionality will be released.?

Windows Phone was mentioned in the previous roadmap for "after 2014":

http://edn.embarcadero.com/article/43677

But there is no mention of Windows Phone in the latest roadmap:

http://community.embarcadero.com/blogs/entry/rad-studio-2015-roadmap

And 64 bit iOs will be given in the release of the Delphi version.?

Considering that the 64bit iOS toolchain is currently in development and being beta tested, that is most likely going to be in XE8:

http://community.embarcadero.com/blogs/entry/if-you-are-doing-ios-development-join-the-beta-to-get-access-to-the-64-bit-toolchain

And When is the next release of the Delphi Version.?

That has not been announced yet.

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david hoke

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  Posted: Mar 3, 2015 1:30 PM   in response to: Remy Lebeau (Te... in response to: Remy Lebeau (Te...
<Remy Lebeau (TeamB)> wrote in message news:716310 at forums dot embarcadero dot com...
Delphi Developer wrote:
I think within April, we can expect Delphi XE8 release from Embarcadreo.

What makes you think that? No such announcement has ben made yet.

An announcement of the end of promotion (Mar 31) of getting XE8 for free for
those buying XE7 in the 'next' short while, has, however been made.

Might be a big clue there. At least as to what they're targeting.
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  Posted: Mar 3, 2015 2:26 PM   in response to: david hoke in response to: david hoke
david wrote:

An announcement of the end of promotion (Mar 31) of getting XE8 for
free for those buying XE7 in the 'next' short while, has, however been
made.

That is not an indication that XE8 will be released in April. It only means
that if you don't buy XE7 before April, you won't get XE8 for free when it
is eventually released.

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  Posted: Mar 4, 2015 7:18 AM   in response to: Remy Lebeau (Te... in response to: Remy Lebeau (Te...
The roadmap mentions 2 releases. Page 14 of 14. Don't tell me EMB will ship 2 releases by the end of the year :) and an update on Christmas eve in between. So I think the easter bunny will bring XE8 - and if not - the mermaid to your beach chair. As far as I remember you have to say the same thing every year. You should use a snippet manager ...

A few month earlier or later don't matter anyway.

Remy Lebeau (TeamB) wrote:
david wrote:

An announcement of the end of promotion (Mar 31) of getting XE8 for
free for those buying XE7 in the 'next' short while, has, however been
made.

That is not an indication that XE8 will be released in April. It only means
that if you don't buy XE7 before April, you won't get XE8 for free when it
is eventually released.

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  Posted: Mar 5, 2015 7:57 AM   in response to: Michael Thuma in response to: Michael Thuma
Michael Thuma wrote:

The roadmap mentions 2 releases. Page 14 of 14. Don't tell me EMB
will ship 2 releases by the end of the year :)

There is a timespan of 9 months between April 1 and December 31.

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Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) wrote:

Michael Thuma wrote:

The roadmap mentions 2 releases. Page 14 of 14. Don't tell me EMB
will ship 2 releases by the end of the year :)

There is a timespan of 9 months between April 1 and December 31.

There is pretty much that can happen in 9 months...

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  Posted: Mar 5, 2015 8:45 AM   in response to: Uwe Raabe in response to: Uwe Raabe
Uwe Raabe wrote:

Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) wrote:

Michael Thuma wrote:

The roadmap mentions 2 releases. Page 14 of 14. Don't tell me EMB
will ship 2 releases by the end of the year :)

There is a timespan of 9 months between April 1 and December 31.

There is pretty much that can happen in 9 months...

Exactly.

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  Posted: Mar 5, 2015 8:45 AM   in response to: Michael Thuma in response to: Michael Thuma
Michael Thuma wrote:

The roadmap mentions 2 releases. Page 14 of 14. Don't tell me EMB
will ship 2 releases by the end of the year :)

There is a timespan of 9 months between April 1 and December 31.

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  Posted: Mar 3, 2015 2:48 PM   in response to: Delphi Developer in response to: Delphi Developer
"Delphi Developer" wrote on Tue, 3 Mar 2015 01:16:23 -0800:

Creating application for Windows Phone is not there

I have a Windows Phone and I love Windows Phone and I want Windows
Phone support, too.

But Windows Phone is actually losing marketshare:
http://tinyurl.com/mwdej3f

So I really don't see Emb bothering with it.

More likely, if we ever do see it, it would be as part of the Windows
10 Universal App stuff, which seems important to me.

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  Posted: Mar 4, 2015 1:16 AM   in response to: Brandon Staggs in response to: Brandon Staggs
Hi,

The main thing I'm expecting is size optimization of Android app and iOs 64 bit implementation. And may be in future 64 bit Android also may requires. Also Delphi already experimented the Linux versions, so may be they may provide support for Linux versions also. Let's wait for the Delphi XE8 and see how it goes.
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  Posted: Mar 11, 2015 11:56 AM   in response to: Delphi Developer in response to: Delphi Developer
All new IOS apps are universal 32/64 bit which are twice as big as they used to be. Tim Cook doesn't seem to be worried about that.
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  Posted: Mar 10, 2015 2:37 AM   in response to: Delphi Developer in response to: Delphi Developer
if EMB can solve performance issue of FireMonkey it is enough for me otherwise Embarcadero will lose more clients.
We will see in XE8. XE8 will be Embarcadero's destiny.
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  Posted: Mar 10, 2015 5:14 AM   in response to: burhan tanis in response to: burhan tanis
burhan tanis wrote:
if EMB can solve performance issue of FireMonkey it is enough for me otherwise Embarcadero will lose more clients.
We will see in XE8. XE8 will be Embarcadero's destiny.

Have you used XE7?
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  Posted: Mar 11, 2015 9:09 AM   in response to: Phillip Woon in response to: Phillip Woon
Phillip Woon wrote:
burhan tanis wrote:
if EMB can solve performance issue of FireMonkey it is enough for me otherwise Embarcadero will lose more clients.
We will see in XE8. XE8 will be Embarcadero's destiny.

Have you used XE7?

Yes in Android and IOS still there are some performance problems...
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  Posted: Mar 11, 2015 10:36 AM   in response to: burhan tanis in response to: burhan tanis
Am 11.03.2015 um 17:09 schrieb burhan tanis:
Phillip Woon wrote:
burhan tanis wrote:
if EMB can solve performance issue of FireMonkey it is enough for me otherwise Embarcadero will lose more clients.
We will see in XE8. XE8 will be Embarcadero's destiny.

Have you used XE7?

Yes in Android and IOS still there are some performance problems...

But afaik less thabn in XE6. Correct?
Which ones do hurt you the most nowadays?

Greetings

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  Posted: Mar 17, 2015 2:21 AM   in response to: Markus Humm in response to: Markus Humm
@@burhan tanis:
Hi,
Please mention some of the problems that you have faced in XE7

@@Markus Humm:
Hi,
*There is a lot of performance optimization in XE7 than XE6 *. But one thing is the size of the android application is small XE6 but some what it is big in Delphi XE7.

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  Posted: Mar 27, 2015 9:27 AM   in response to: Delphi Developer in response to: Delphi Developer
Startup time of application which is compiled in Delphi xe7?
click app
3-4 seconds black screen
than
program interface appeared.
in native android app
click after 1 sec hoop it appeared.

Delphi Developer wrote:
@@burhan tanis:
Hi,
Please mention some of the problems that you have faced in XE7

@@Markus Humm:
Hi,
*There is a lot of performance optimization in XE7 than XE6 *. But one thing is the size of the android application is small XE6 but some what it is big in Delphi XE7.

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  Posted: Mar 28, 2015 12:12 PM   in response to: burhan tanis in response to: burhan tanis
have you set to show a splash screen in XE7?
(so that you do not get the black screen (well only for a split second) on start up
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