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Thread: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something



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Frederick Wilt

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Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 25, 2014 10:53 PM
Hi,

The subject is the question:

Didn't the little circular images next to the topics/posts used to mean something.

I seem to recall that they could be "empty", "half-full" or "full".

Is my memory playing tricks on me???
John Frazier


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Re: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 25, 2014 11:35 PM   in response to: Frederick Wilt in response to: Frederick Wilt
Frederick Wilt wrote:
Hi,

The subject is the question:

Didn't the little circular images next to the topics/posts used to mean something.

I seem to recall that they could be "empty", "half-full" or "full".

Is my memory playing tricks on me???

It's read tracking and I turned it off to reduce database load. It may come back at some point but there are more important things that need to be handled first.
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Frederick Wilt

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Re: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 26, 2014 6:22 AM   in response to: John Frazier in response to: John Frazier
John Frazier wrote:

It's read tracking and I turned it off to reduce database load. It may come back at some point but there are more important things that need to be handled first.
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Without them how do we know when something new has been posted to a topic?

Thanks.
Bruce McGee

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Re: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 26, 2014 6:54 AM   in response to: Frederick Wilt in response to: Frederick Wilt
Frederick Wilt wrote:

Without them how do we know when something new has been posted to a
topic?

I recommend a good news reader. I use XanaNews.

https://github.com/graemeg/xananews/releases

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Frederick Wilt

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Re: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 26, 2014 10:15 AM   in response to: Bruce McGee in response to: Bruce McGee
Bruce McGee wrote:

I recommend a good news reader. I use XanaNews.

https://github.com/graemeg/xananews/releases

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I gave up on news readers once this site (of the 30 or so sites I visit regularly) was the only one left that allowed using a reader. It was easier to just use a browser.

To me it seems odd, given the business that Embarcadero is in, that they seem to struggle to run a web based forum. The other sites I visit just work, day in and day out.
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Re: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 26, 2014 11:48 AM   in response to: Frederick Wilt in response to: Frederick Wilt
Frederick Wilt wrote:

Bruce McGee wrote:

I recommend a good news reader. I use XanaNews.

https://github.com/graemeg/xananews/releases

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Bruce McGee
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I gave up on news readers once this site (of the 30 or so sites I
visit regularly) was the only one left that allowed using a reader.
It was easier to just use a browser.

Fortunately, most of the forums I visit (quite a few) can all be
accessed with this newsreader. No need to visit 30 or so different
websites, with different navigation, etc. <g>
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Ole Ekerhovd

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Re: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 26, 2014 12:06 PM   in response to: Frederick Wilt in response to: Frederick Wilt
To me too.

They have their own database, all kinds of database tools, development tools.

But you know, theory and practice...... :)

Ole


To me it seems odd, given the business that Embarcadero is in, that they seem to struggle to run a web based forum. The other sites I visit just work, day in and day out.
Markus Humm

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  Posted: Oct 29, 2014 8:36 AM   in response to: Ole Ekerhovd in response to: Ole Ekerhovd
Am 26.10.2014 20:06, schrieb Ole Ekerhovd:
To me too.

They have their own database, all kinds of database tools, development tools.

Hello,

I might be mistaken, but doesn't the forum run on their own BlackFish
database? If yes, that one's not maintained anymore since afew years afaik.

Greetings

Markus
Ole Ekerhovd

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  Posted: Oct 29, 2014 11:23 AM   in response to: Markus Humm in response to: Markus Humm
I have no idea if it's BlackFish or Interbase.

The point is, a company that specialize in the development of databases, database tools and development tools, I would expect them to run a State of the art forum.

In addition to help fellow developers, give information etc. I consider the forum also to be a showcase of what their tools are capable of.

Ole


Hello,

I might be mistaken, but doesn't the forum run on their own BlackFish
database? If yes, that one's not maintained anymore since afew years afaik.

Greetings

Markus
David Clegg

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Re: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 29, 2014 12:35 PM   in response to: Ole Ekerhovd in response to: Ole Ekerhovd
Ole Ekerhovd wrote:

I have no idea if it's BlackFish or Interbase.

It's Blackfish SQL, although InterBase is used by other EDN sites.

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Markus Humm

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  Posted: Oct 29, 2014 12:39 PM   in response to: Ole Ekerhovd in response to: Ole Ekerhovd
Am 29.10.2014 19:23, schrieb Ole Ekerhovd:
I have no idea if it's BlackFish or Interbase.

The point is, a company that specialize in the development of databases, database tools and development tools, I would expect them to run a State of the art forum.

In addition to help fellow developers, give information etc. I consider the forum also to be a showcase of what their tools are capable of.

By all means: yes! ;-)

Greetings

Markus
Quentin Correll


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Re: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 26, 2014 11:08 AM   in response to: Frederick Wilt in response to: Frederick Wilt
Frederick,

| Without them how do we know when something new has been posted to a
| topic?

What Bruce replied.

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Dan Barclay

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Re: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 29, 2014 9:08 AM   in response to: Frederick Wilt in response to: Frederick Wilt
Frederick Wilt wrote:
John Frazier wrote:

It's read tracking and I turned it off to reduce database load. It may come back at some point but there are more important things that need to be handled first.
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John Frazier (Embarcadero Newsgroup Admin)

Without them how do we know when something new has been posted to a topic?

You don't. You can watch the "last posted" date. That's helpful in noting threads that have changed but not really useful for finding your way back to the "first unread" in a thread.

As others have posted, some use newsreaders.

Newsreader is not useful to me since I access from multiple machines and newsreaders on different machines don't share history.

Yes, it's irritating. But, it's less irritating than the newsgroup going down.

Dan
Steve Thackery

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Re: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 29, 2014 11:26 AM   in response to: Dan Barclay in response to: Dan Barclay
Dan Barclay wrote:

Newsreader is not useful to me since I access from multiple machines
and newsreaders on different machines don't share history.

That is absolutely right, and I think this should be a big hint to
whomever is currently custodian of XanaNews! :-)

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  Posted: Oct 29, 2014 11:30 AM   in response to: Steve Thackery in response to: Steve Thackery
Steve Thackery wrote:

Dan Barclay wrote:

Newsreader is not useful to me since I access from multiple machines
and newsreaders on different machines don't share history.

That is absolutely right, and I think this should be a big hint to
whomever is currently custodian of XanaNews! :-)

Actually, in all seriousness it might be quite easy to move the
relevant folders/files used by XanaNews to Dropbox.

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Asbjørn Heid

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Re: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 29, 2014 2:42 PM   in response to: Steve Thackery in response to: Steve Thackery
Steve Thackery wrote:
Actually, in all seriousness it might be quite easy to move the
relevant folders/files used by XanaNews to Dropbox.

That actually depends on how XanaNews accesses it's files. If it keeps the files open as long as you use the program, then you'll be fine as long as you remember to close the program before leaving that computer. Otherwise you'll likely get conflicts as Dropbox will sync the file as soon as it's changed, and XanaNews might want to write some more to it.

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Steve Thackery

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  Posted: Oct 29, 2014 3:28 PM   in response to: Asbjørn Heid in response to: Asbjørn Heid
Asbjørn Heid wrote:

There's loads of stuff in the registry, which I assume I'd need to
duplicate on the second machine. Moving the message store to OneDrive
seems to work fine, although I need to look for any file locking, as
you suggest.


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  Posted: Oct 29, 2014 3:35 PM   in response to: Steve Thackery in response to: Steve Thackery
As far as I can see, it locks only the 'messages.dat' file for the
particular group you have highlighted at the time.

This, of course, is a problem, as it could easily lead to sync problems
unless the program is closed down and OneDrive given time to sync
before using it on the other computer. Or at least it would seem that
way at first glance.

Can anyone remember who is looking after XanaNews at the moment? I do
wonder if - with the help of Dropbox or OneDrive - it might turn out to
be quite easy to keep things in sync across multiple computers.

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  Posted: Oct 29, 2014 3:49 PM   in response to: Steve Thackery in response to: Steve Thackery
Steve,

| Can anyone remember who is looking after XanaNews at the moment?

"Graeme Geldenhuys" <graemeg at gmail dot com>

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Dan Barclay

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  Posted: Oct 29, 2014 9:14 AM   in response to: John Frazier in response to: John Frazier
John Frazier wrote:

It's read tracking and I turned it off to reduce database load. It may come back at some point but there are more important things that need to be handled first.

Hopefully the ability to return to "first unread message" using a web interface will be available before long. The newsgroups are really lacking without that.

On a related subject (newsgroup), I understand much of the history has been lost (searches only go back a few months). I've seen messages indicating that some users have newsreader files with downloaded messages going back a number of years and have offered that data.

I'd like you to consider retrieving that history and grinding the messages back into the database(s).

Dan
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Re: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 26, 2014 11:34 AM   in response to: Frederick Wilt in response to: Frederick Wilt
Frederick Wilt wrote:

Didn't the little circular images next to the topics/posts used to mean something.

Yes it marks all the threads that have gone completely off-topic. :-)
Dominique Willems

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  Posted: Oct 26, 2014 3:42 PM   in response to: > Rich < in response to: > Rich <
Rich wrote:
Yes it marks all the threads that have gone completely off-topic. :-)

You unknowingly pointed out an excellent feature.
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Re: Didn't the little circular images next to the posts used to mean something
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  Posted: Oct 26, 2014 11:46 AM   in response to: Frederick Wilt in response to: Frederick Wilt
Frederick Wilt wrote:

Didn't the little circular images next to the topics/posts used to
mean something.

I seem to recall that they could be "empty", "half-full" or "full".

Is my memory playing tricks on me???

I assume you mean the web interface? Nice question for

embarcadero.public.developernetwork.website

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Graeme Geldenhuys

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  Posted: Oct 31, 2014 12:04 AM   in response to: Frederick Wilt in response to: Frederick Wilt
On 2014-10-26 05:53, Frederick Wilt wrote:

Is my memory playing tricks on me???

Definitely yes. My Mozilla Thunderbird and XanaNews does not show any
such circles. ;-)

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