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Marin Damian

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  Posted: Feb 9, 2016 6:54 AM
With this release it will be possible to create console apps for Ubuntu Server & RedHat Enterprise (Intel 64-bit target).
This is great news for enterprise developers.
It will be nice if Embarcadero will extend formally supported Linux distributions list with embedded device segment.
My vote is Debian 8 ("jessie") - ArmHardFloatPort.
The purpose of this post is to voice my current needs and to see if there is market in this segment of application development.
Please feel free to share your vision on this topic.

Thank you,
Marin.
Markus Humm

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  Posted: Feb 9, 2016 9:50 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
Am 09.02.2016 um 15:54 schrieb Marin Damian:
With this release it will be possible to create console apps for Ubuntu Server & RedHat Enterprise (Intel 64-bit target).
This is great news for enterprise developers.
It will be nice if Embarcadero will extend formally supported Linux distributions list with embedded device segment.
My vote is Debian 8 ("jessie") - ArmHardFloatPort.
The purpose of this post is to voice my current needs and to see if there is market in this segment of application development.
Please feel free to share your vision on this topic.

Thank you,
Marin.

Hello,

if tey like to go furthwer in the IoT direction supporting stuff like
Raspberry Pi is a must and Allen bauer lately even blogged about his
success to get some internal alpha build compile a console app which
even worked for it.

Greetings

Markus
Marin Damian

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  Posted: Feb 9, 2016 12:15 PM   in response to: Markus Humm in response to: Markus Humm
@Markus

Do you mean Windows 10 IoT Core?
Robert Love

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  Posted: Feb 10, 2016 8:50 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
Marin Damian wrote:
@Markus

Do you mean Windows 10 IoT Core?

No he used Ubuntu 15.10 MATE on Rasberry PI 2.

http://blog.therealoracleatdelphi.com/2015/12/baking-object-pascal-and-rapsberry-pie.html
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  Posted: Feb 10, 2016 10:31 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
Am 09.02.2016 um 21:15 schrieb Marin Damian:
@Markus

Do you mean Windows 10 IoT Core?

Hello,

Robert is right, but supporting Windows 10 IoT core would be nice as well.

Greetings

Markus
Mike Margerum

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  Posted: Feb 10, 2016 3:34 PM   in response to: Markus Humm in response to: Markus Humm
On 2/10/16 1:31 PM, Markus Humm wrote:
Am 09.02.2016 um 21:15 schrieb Marin Damian:
@Markus

Do you mean Windows 10 IoT Core?

Hello,

Robert is right, but supporting Windows 10 IoT core would be nice as well.

Greetings

Markus

The requirements for windows 10 IOT seem high. Cant see a sensor having
256 MB of ram
Christopher Burke

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  Posted: Feb 10, 2016 4:20 PM   in response to: Mike Margerum in response to: Mike Margerum
Mike Margerum wrote:

The requirements for windows 10 IOT seem high. Cant see a sensor
having 256 MB of ram

IOBT - Internet of Big Things :)
Marin Damian

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  Posted: Feb 11, 2016 7:11 AM   in response to: Markus Humm in response to: Markus Humm
@Markus,
This is plan B for our device prototype. UWP app with StreamSocket and WebView. Running the same code on desktop and embedded device is very/very attractive.
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  Posted: Feb 11, 2016 10:05 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
Am 11.02.2016 um 16:11 schrieb Marin Damian:
@Markus,
This is plan B for our device prototype. UWP app with StreamSocket and WebView. Running the same code on desktop and embedded device is very/very attractive.

Hello,

can you tell me more about it?
What's UWP? What's a StreamSocket? SOme TStream over a TCP/IP or UDP
socket implementation? What's web view? SOme browser control on a form?
And what kind of devices do you develop?

Greetings

Markus
Marin Damian

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  Posted: Feb 11, 2016 10:55 AM   in response to: Markus Humm in response to: Markus Humm
@Markus,
UWP (Universal Windows Platform) app is an application that can be run on any Windows 10 based (including Windows 10 IoT Core) device like:
- Raspberry Pi 2
- MinnowBoard MAX
- DragonBoard 410c

UWP app targets Windows Runtime (object based) in contrast with Desktop app that targets Win API (procedural based).
StreamSocket and WebView are classes from Windows Runtime. VCL equivalents are TClientSocket and TWebBrowser.
At the moment no developer tools exists to create UWP app - except Visual Studio.

I'm developing for IA-32 ISA (PC, PC104 and SBC) and ARMv7 ISA (ODROID-XU3).
I'm planning to bye a Raspberry Pi 2.

Edited by: Marin Damian on Feb 11, 2016 10:58 AM
Arnaud Bouchez

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  Posted: Feb 11, 2016 5:09 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
Marin Damian wrote:
Do you mean Windows 10 IoT Core?

For me, IoT is more something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESP8266
See e.g. https://www.supla.org/

About something close-to-the-metal on Rasperry PI, take a look at https://ultibo.org/wiki/Main_Page
The sources are really amazing!
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  Posted: Feb 9, 2016 2:09 PM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
Marin Damian wrote:

It will be nice if Embarcadero will extend formally supported Linux
distributions list with embedded device segment. My vote is Debian 8
("jessie") - ArmHardFloatPort.

This just means that the listed distributions will be specifically
tested/certified. It's possible the code will run on many other linux
Distros, but the CPU being used is going to be a critical factor.

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Marin Damian

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  Posted: Feb 10, 2016 6:23 AM   in response to: John Kaster in response to: John Kaster
@John,
LSB specification defines 7 ISA architectures and doesn't include ARM.
For this reason I wouldn't go with distro that is not formally supported.
John Kaster


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  Posted: Feb 10, 2016 2:03 PM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
Marin Damian wrote:

For this reason I wouldn't go with distro that is not formally
supported.

Oh, I'm definitely not recommending using an uncertified/untested
distro. Just saying that it's entirely possible it would work. :)

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  Posted: Feb 10, 2016 9:51 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
it would be great if it could compile against libraries like synapse :)

Edited by: Brian Hamilton Hamilton on Feb 11, 2016 1:33 AM
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