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Karlheinz Jansen

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  Posted: Jan 30, 2016 1:10 AM
"Planning for a great 2016!

... We will communicate the updated Product Roadmap in January. ...

I wish you all a successful completion of 2015 and a prosperous 2016!

Best Wishes!

Atanas Popov

General Manager, Embarcadero"

It is time to deliver until tomorrow!

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Markus Humm

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  Posted: Jan 30, 2016 7:30 AM   in response to: Karlheinz Jansen in response to: Karlheinz Jansen
Am 30.01.2016 um 10:10 schrieb Karlheinz Jansen:
"Planning for a great 2016!

... We will communicate the updated Product Roadmap in January. ...

I wish you all a successful completion of 2015 and a prosperous 2016!

Best Wishes!

Atanas Popov

General Manager, Embarcadero"

It is time to deliver until tomorrow!


Yep, you're right ;-)

Greetings

Markus
David Alcelay

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+1
The communication policy can be improved...ejem ejem
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  Posted: Feb 5, 2016 8:15 AM   in response to: Karlheinz Jansen in response to: Karlheinz Jansen
Any signs of VCL Forms Application support on Linux?
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  Posted: Feb 5, 2016 8:48 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
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Any signs of VCL Forms Application support on Linux?

That will never happen. VCL is to tied to Windows for that to ever
happen.


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  Posted: Feb 5, 2016 11:06 AM   in response to: Nick Hodges in response to: Nick Hodges
Nick,

| VCL is to[o] tied to Windows

Just wanted you to know I'm reading your posts. ;-)

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Nick,

VCL is to[o] tied to Windows

Just wanted you to know I'm reading your posts. ;-)

[proof]reading? :-)

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Van,

| | Just wanted you to know I'm reading your posts. ;-)
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| [proof]reading? :-)

More like copy editing. <g>

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  Posted: Feb 9, 2016 5:53 AM   in response to: Nick Hodges in response to: Nick Hodges
Nick Hodges wrote:

Marin Damian wrote:


Any signs of VCL Forms Application support on Linux?

That will never happen. VCL is to tied to Windows for that to ever
happen.

Indeed. But what about FMX?

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Am 09.02.2016 um 14:53 schrieb Rudy Velthuis (TeamB):
Nick Hodges wrote:

Marin Damian wrote:


Any signs of VCL Forms Application support on Linux?

That will never happen. VCL is to tied to Windows for that to ever
happen.

Indeed. But what about FMX?

I'm not sure how many different GFX subsystems the different distros
use. That might be a bit tricky. But then I don't know much about that
aspect. X11 is being rendered obsolete on some distros at least, but I
don't know what's replacing it.

It also might be that they want to get binary compatible with some major
distros first and Linux on desktops is still a bit of a nice.

Greetings

Markus
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  Posted: Feb 5, 2016 8:48 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
Am 05.02.2016 um 17:15 schrieb Marin Damian:
Any signs of VCL Forms Application support on Linux?

Hello,

I doubt they'll do VCL on Linux. I guess they provide server side stuff
which can live without GUI or if they present a GUI framework it will be
FMX.

VCL is too Windows centric.

Greetings

Markus
Marin Damian

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  Posted: Feb 5, 2016 9:39 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
How about VCL stuff that NOT descent from TControl/TWinControl (ex: TClientSocket)?

Edited by: Marin Damian on Feb 5, 2016 9:40 AM

Edited by: Marin Damian on Feb 5, 2016 9:41 AM
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  Posted: Feb 5, 2016 10:01 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
Marin wrote:

How about VCL stuff that NOT descent from TControl/TWinControl (ex:
TClientSocket)?

TClientSocket is Windows-specific as well. Internally it uses Win32-specific
APIs, not cross-platform APIs. Also TClientSocket it is implemented in VCL-specifi
package anyway

For cross-platform sockets, you need to use a cross-platform library, such
as Indy.

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  Posted: Feb 7, 2016 4:10 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
Lazarus ia able to compile a VCL form into Win, Lin and OSX.

<Marin Damian> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:801280 at forums dot embarcadero dot com...

Any signs of VCL Forms Application support on Linux?
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  Posted: Feb 8, 2016 6:18 AM   in response to: Ralf Stocker in response to: Ralf Stocker
Ralf Stocker wrote:

Lazarus ia able to compile a VCL form into Win, Lin and OSX.

LCL?

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  Posted: Feb 5, 2016 1:58 PM   in response to: Karlheinz Jansen in response to: Karlheinz Jansen
I need just a word from Embarcadero: should I go with Android or wait for Linux.
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  Posted: Feb 5, 2016 2:47 PM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
I need just a word from Embarcadero: should I go with Android or wait
for Linux.

Before waiting for an answer, make sure you asked the question. It is
not clear at all what you are waiting for.

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  Posted: Feb 6, 2016 5:31 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
Marin Damian wrote:
I need just a word from Embarcadero: should I go with Android or wait for Linux.

The Linux rumors are for console based applications, so there's not exactly much overlap between the two platforms. So what exactly are you trying to decide between?

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  Posted: Feb 8, 2016 7:30 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
I would like to know:
1 - what ISA(CISC/RISC) architectures (or Linux targets) will Delphi compiler support?
2 - what type of projects (ex: Console Application) will Delphi IDE support?
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  Posted: Feb 8, 2016 7:36 AM   in response to: Marin Damian in response to: Marin Damian
Marin Damian wrote:
I would like to know:
1 - what ISA(CISC/RISC) architectures (or Linux targets) will Delphi compiler support?
2 - what type of projects (ex: Console Application) will Delphi IDE support?

Check out the roadmap, which was just released, both are covered there.

http://community.embarcadero.com/article/news/16211-embarcadero-rad-studio-2016-product-approach-and-roadmap-2

Cheers
- Asbjørn
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  Posted: Feb 8, 2016 7:42 AM   in response to: Asbjørn Heid in response to: Asbjørn Heid
Linux console apps on Intel 64-bit server is a good start. I'm happy now :)
I hope is not Itanium.

Edited by: Marin Damian on Feb 8, 2016 7:44 AM
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Marin Damian wrote:

I hope is not Itanium.

Your kidding, right? ;-)

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  Posted: Feb 8, 2016 8:11 AM   in response to: Nick Hodges in response to: Nick Hodges
My bad.
Confused with IA-64 :)
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Karlheinz Jansen wrote:

"Planning for a great 2016!

... We will communicate the updated Product Roadmap in January. ...

http://community.embarcadero.com/article/news/16211-embarcadero-rad-studio-2016-product-approach-and-roadmap-2

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  Posted: Feb 8, 2016 6:31 AM   in response to: Bruce McGee in response to: Bruce McGee
Bruce McGee wrote:

Karlheinz Jansen wrote:

"Planning for a great 2016!

... We will communicate the updated Product Roadmap in January. ...

http://community.embarcadero.com/article/news/16211-embarcadero-rad-studio-2016-product-approach-and-roadmap-2

OMFG ... they're back...

Delphi Compiler & Language -Native support for Utf8String type on all
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  Posted: Feb 8, 2016 6:34 AM   in response to: Christopher Burke in response to: Christopher Burke
Christopher Burke wrote:

Bruce McGee wrote:

Karlheinz Jansen wrote:

"Planning for a great 2016!

... We will communicate the updated Product Roadmap in January.
...

http://community.embarcadero.com/article/news/16211-embarcadero-rad-studio-2016-product-approach-and-roadmap-2

OMFG ... they're back...

Delphi Compiler & Language -Native support for Utf8String type on all
platforms

I thought that might catch some peoples' attention. :)

Linux was the other one.

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Bruce McGee wrote:

Christopher Burke wrote:

Delphi Compiler & Language -Native support for Utf8String type on
all platforms

I thought that might catch some peoples' attention. :)

Linux was the other one.

I'm also gonna guess they're actually very much related.

Linux without UTF8 strings would probably be problematic.

If they (have to) provide it for that platform...
and want to continue to claim cross-platform capability...
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  Posted: Feb 8, 2016 8:26 AM   in response to: david hoke in response to: david hoke
david hoke wrote:
Bruce McGee wrote:

Christopher Burke wrote:

Delphi Compiler & Language -Native support for Utf8String type on
all platforms

I thought that might catch some peoples' attention. :)

Linux was the other one.

I'm also gonna guess they're actually very much related.

Linux without UTF8 strings would probably be problematic.

If they (have to) provide it for that platform...
and want to continue to claim cross-platform capability...

All great news. But too bad there was no mention of HTML5 Builder.

Erick Engelke
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  Posted: Feb 8, 2016 8:55 AM   in response to: Erick Engelke in response to: Erick Engelke
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But too bad there was no mention of HTML5 Builder.

Yes it is.

What other tools are people using for front end web development? I've
been using Adobe Brackets for a while. Great tool, especially for hand
crafted web pages, but I'm not sure how actively it's being developed
these days.

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  Posted: Feb 9, 2016 1:29 AM   in response to: Bruce McGee in response to: Bruce McGee
Bruce McGee wrote:

What other tools are people using for front end web development?

Delphi developers should check out Elevate Web Builder, which is a
Delphi-like-language IDE that outputs Javascript. Very productive, and
no mistakes with your javascript.
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Matthew Jones wrote:

Bruce McGee wrote:

What other tools are people using for front end web development?

Delphi developers should check out Elevate Web Builder, which is a
Delphi-like-language IDE that outputs Javascript. Very productive, and
no mistakes with your javascript.

agreed, EWB is great!

Tim Young was up to show off the new release at one of our user group
meetings.

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Matthew Jones wrote:
Bruce McGee wrote:

What other tools are people using for front end web development?

Delphi developers should check out Elevate Web Builder, which is a
Delphi-like-language IDE that outputs Javascript. Very productive, and
no mistakes with your javascript.

I had tried out Smart Mobile Studio, but felt it was limited. I've just ordered Elevate Web Builder based on these recommendation and a very nice set of demos on their site.

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I've just ordered Elevate Web Builder

I just looked at the web site, too. It's definitely evolved :)

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david hoke wrote:
Bruce McGee wrote:

Christopher Burke wrote:

Delphi Compiler & Language -Native support for Utf8String type on
all platforms

I thought that might catch some peoples' attention. :)

Linux was the other one.

I'm also gonna guess they're actually very much related.

Linux without UTF8 strings would probably be problematic.

If they (have to) provide it for that platform...
and want to continue to claim cross-platform capability...

I guess so too. Linux server without UTF8 would be seriously
crippled. Any server side processing I am doing is strictly done
in UTF8 encoding and nothing else. UTF8 in UTF8 out.

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Dalija Prasnikar wrote:

I guess so too. Linux server without UTF8 would be seriously
crippled. Any server side processing I am doing is strictly done
in UTF8 encoding and nothing else. UTF8 in UTF8 out.

According to Wikipedia - as at January 2016 - 86% of the web is still
UTF8.

SO yeah, Linux being 'most of the web' - it does make sense.
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Christopher Burke wrote:

Dalija Prasnikar wrote:

I guess so too. Linux server without UTF8 would be seriously
crippled. Any server side processing I am doing is strictly done
in UTF8 encoding and nothing else. UTF8 in UTF8 out.

According to Wikipedia - as at January 2016 - 86% of the web is still
UTF8.

SO yeah, Linux being 'most of the web' - it does make sense.

If you want to pass data around the world means it should be compact.
UTF-16 is good, but it is not compact. That is probably the sole reason.

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Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) wrote:
Christopher Burke wrote:

Dalija Prasnikar wrote:

I guess so too. Linux server without UTF8 would be seriously
crippled. Any server side processing I am doing is strictly done
in UTF8 encoding and nothing else. UTF8 in UTF8 out.

According to Wikipedia - as at January 2016 - 86% of the web is still
UTF8.

SO yeah, Linux being 'most of the web' - it does make sense.

If you want to pass data around the world means it should be compact.
UTF-16 is good, but it is not compact. That is probably the sole reason.

I cannot believe that you will agree on need for UTF8 strings with me ;-)

But then, stranger things have happened...

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Dalija Prasnikar wrote:

Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) wrote:
Christopher Burke wrote:

Dalija Prasnikar wrote:

I guess so too. Linux server without UTF8 would be seriously
crippled. Any server side processing I am doing is strictly done
in UTF8 encoding and nothing else. UTF8 in UTF8 out.

According to Wikipedia - as at January 2016 - 86% of the web is
still UTF8.

SO yeah, Linux being 'most of the web' - it does make sense.

If you want to pass data around the world means it should be
compact. UTF-16 is good, but it is not compact. That is probably
the sole reason.

I cannot believe that you will agree on need for UTF8 strings with me
;-)

I even proposed that UTF8Strings would be enough. AnsiString is
obsolete, and sorry for all those who use them as simple binary data
carriers.

But then, stranger things have happened...

I even wrote my own implementation. I didn't release it because I got
fed up with testing it on other platforms, but it works great on
Windows and Mac.

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Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) wrote:
Dalija Prasnikar wrote:

Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) wrote:
Christopher Burke wrote:

Dalija Prasnikar wrote:

I guess so too. Linux server without UTF8 would be seriously
crippled. Any server side processing I am doing is strictly done
in UTF8 encoding and nothing else. UTF8 in UTF8 out.

According to Wikipedia - as at January 2016 - 86% of the web is
still UTF8.

SO yeah, Linux being 'most of the web' - it does make sense.

If you want to pass data around the world means it should be
compact. UTF-16 is good, but it is not compact. That is probably
the sole reason.

I cannot believe that you will agree on need for UTF8 strings with me
;-)

I even proposed that UTF8Strings would be enough. AnsiString is
obsolete, and sorry for all those who use them as simple binary data
carriers.

Actually, according to Allen, RawByteString will also be there.

https://plus.google.com/+HoracioJoseCavalcantiFilho/posts/eKEEmp3tCjx

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Dalija,

| I cannot believe that you will agree on need for UTF8 strings with me
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UTF-16 is good

Hmm... I seriously doubt it.

UTF-8 Everywhere
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Alex Belo wrote:

Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) wrote:

UTF-16 is good

Hmm... I seriously doubt it.

Since both are different encodings of exactly the same set of tokens,
while UTF-16 can cover most of those without surrogate pairs or other
multi-point encodings, I think each have their strengths and weaknesses.

So you may doubt whatever you like and have your preferences, I
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"Alex Belo" wrote on Tue, 9 Feb 2016 09:30:10 -0800:

UTF-16 is good

Hmm... I seriously doubt it.

UTF-8 Everywhere
http://utf8everywhere.org

It depends on what you are using it for. The fact that Windows uses
WideString internally makes it kind of a no-brainer to make that your
default string type there. It's also more efficient if you are
working with languages that do not encode characters in one byte in
UTF-8. UTF-8 has its advantages, too. No need to get dogmatic about
it.

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Bruce McGee

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  Posted: Feb 12, 2016 5:27 AM   in response to: Brandon Staggs in response to: Brandon Staggs
Brandon Staggs wrote:

No need to get dogmatic about
it.

he he he

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Mark Jacobs


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  Posted: Feb 15, 2016 9:05 AM   in response to: Alex Belo in response to: Alex Belo
{quote:title=Alex Belo wrote:}
Hmm... I seriously doubt it.

UTF-8 Everywhere
http://utf8everywhere.org

What a link! Superb treatise on why UTF8 is the best. Gr8!

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Now all we've got to get right is mixing ltr and rtl characters in the same sentence as shown above. Try highlighting some of those characters! It really gets in a mess.
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Lars Fosdal


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  Posted: Feb 17, 2016 11:37 PM   in response to: Mark Jacobs in response to: Mark Jacobs
Mark Jacobs wrote:
What a link! Superb treatise on why UTF8 is the best. Gr8!

죺鐄晷但➈☑ﰳﭿﯭﱔﰰﰦﯯ

Now all we've got to get right is mixing ltr and rtl characters in the same sentence as shown above. Try highlighting some of those characters! It really gets in a mess.

Interesting. It seems normal if you select from right to left - but going left to right does indeed cause strange things to happen :)

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Matthew Jones

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  Posted: Feb 9, 2016 1:30 AM   in response to: david hoke in response to: david hoke
david hoke wrote:

and want to continue to claim cross-platform capability...

Pity that the source won't be compatible between Windows and Linux,
with the latter using ARC. Kills it for me.
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  Posted: Feb 9, 2016 5:29 AM   in response to: Matthew Jones in response to: Matthew Jones
Matthew Jones wrote:

david hoke wrote:

and want to continue to claim cross-platform capability...

Pity that the source won't be compatible between Windows and Linux,
with the latter using ARC. Kills it for me.

There is that I suppose - I think I saw the ARC mention for Linux, but
had forgotten about that detail.
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  Posted: Feb 9, 2016 5:56 AM   in response to: Matthew Jones in response to: Matthew Jones
Matthew Jones wrote:

david hoke wrote:

and want to continue to claim cross-platform capability...

Pity that the source won't be compatible between Windows and Linux,

ARC doesn't change that. Of course Windows-specific code using APIs
etc. won't work.
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  Posted: Feb 9, 2016 1:55 AM   in response to: david hoke in response to: david hoke
david hoke wrote:

Linux without UTF8 strings would probably be problematic.

I had a similar thought.

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Gilbert Padilla

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  Posted: Feb 8, 2016 10:29 AM   in response to: Bruce McGee in response to: Bruce McGee
"FireUI App Preview - preview your forms on any target (desktop and mobile)
while using the form designer in the IDE"

Seems like this feature could speed up development on mobile devices.
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