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Chad Hower

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  Posted: May 7, 2015 4:22 PM
Third attempt to post..

nntp
news.atozed.com

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  Posted: May 7, 2015 4:23 PM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
On 5/7/2015 7:22 PM, Chad Hower wrote:
Third attempt to post..

nntp
news.atozed.com

A few months ago we reactivated these because the EMBT ones are down
more than up. It often takes us hours or days to post a reply here. We
will continue to monitor, but we are moving PRIMARY support back to our
NNTP server.

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  Posted: May 7, 2015 11:36 PM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
Chad, can you tell us which software you are using for the nntp-channel? I was unable to connect to the server. I tried several program under OSX and Windows and I was always unable connect to the news.atozed.server (Yes, I checked the firewall for port 119;-) )

and, I will not start a thread about modern support environments: But why not using google groups or any other web based solution (this is at least better until you a have a good solution than the old nntp protocol; and yes, I am not a fan of google but the current situation is very frustrating). I am paying for Delphi Support and Atozed Support but Embaracadero tells me, they are not responsible for the IntraWeb 14.0(sic) version and Atozed is not reachable on a reliable bias for MONTHS!!

I just created on google group a forum in a fews seconds:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/atozedsupport

so, please tell us, why does Atozed makes thinks often more complicated than necesscary? You have a very good product!! I love it but the lack of "professional support" and "documentation" makes it difficult to love it. Alexandre can not do everything. He is doing an outstanding job; but it would be much better, if the ecosystem arround Atozed would be so good, that we almost don't need him... ;-)

Best regards
Sven

Chad Hower wrote:
Third attempt to post..

nntp
news.atozed.com

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  Posted: May 8, 2015 12:24 AM   in response to: Sven Heuer in response to: Sven Heuer
to answer myself: I found thunderbird working. But which of the groups u are really using?

Sven Heuer wrote:
Chad, can you tell us which software you are using for the nntp-channel? I was unable to connect to the server. I tried several program under OSX and Windows and I was always unable connect to the news.atozed.server (Yes, I checked the firewall for port 119;-) )

and, I will not start a thread about modern support environments: But why not using google groups or any other web based solution (this is at least better until you a have a good solution than the old nntp protocol; and yes, I am not a fan of google but the current situation is very frustrating). I am paying for Delphi Support and Atozed Support but Embaracadero tells me, they are not responsible for the IntraWeb 14.0(sic) version and Atozed is not reachable on a reliable bias for MONTHS!!

I just created on google group a forum in a fews seconds:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/atozedsupport

so, please tell us, why does Atozed makes thinks often more complicated than necesscary? You have a very good product!! I love it but the lack of "professional support" and "documentation" makes it difficult to love it. Alexandre can not do everything. He is doing an outstanding job; but it would be much better, if the ecosystem arround Atozed would be so good, that we almost don't need him... ;-)

Best regards
Sven

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Third attempt to post..

nntp
news.atozed.com

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  Posted: May 11, 2015 12:41 PM   in response to: Sven Heuer in response to: Sven Heuer
Sven wrote:

Chad, can you tell us which software you are using for the nntp-channel?
I was unable to connect to the server. I tried several program under OSX
and Windows and I was always unable connect to the news.atozed.server
(Yes, I checked the firewall for port 119;-) )

I have never had any trouble connecting to news.atozed.com on port 119 using
several different newsreaders over the years.

and, I will not start a thread about modern support environments: But
why not using google groups or any other web based solution (this is
at least better until you a have a good solution than the old nntp
protocol;

There is nothing wrong with NNTP, and many support people still prefer it
over anything else. I speak for myself when I say that I can be a LOT more
productive in an NNTP environment than any other. Web forums are just too
slow and restricting.

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  Posted: May 11, 2015 1:31 PM   in response to: Remy Lebeau (Te... in response to: Remy Lebeau (Te...
Remy Lebeau (TeamB) wrote:
Sven wrote:

Chad, can you tell us which software you are using for the nntp-channel?
I was unable to connect to the server. I tried several program under OSX
and Windows and I was always unable connect to the news.atozed.server
(Yes, I checked the firewall for port 119;-) )

I have never had any trouble connecting to news.atozed.com on port 119 using
several different newsreaders over the years.

and, I will not start a thread about modern support environments: But
why not using google groups or any other web based solution (this is
at least better until you a have a good solution than the old nntp
protocol;

There is nothing wrong with NNTP, and many support people still prefer it
over anything else. I speak for myself when I say that I can be a LOT more
productive in an NNTP environment than any other. Web forums are just too
slow and restricting.

Some time back, on one of the aviation forums, one of the guys took the time to write a front end to pull a web forum (UBB based) content into TAPCIS. Download a session, then read it. That was great, having all the threading and reply tracking as TAPCIS. You could scan messages/threads as fast as you could tap a key.

Dan
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  Posted: May 12, 2015 3:43 AM   in response to: Remy Lebeau (Te... in response to: Remy Lebeau (Te...
Only that you have to configure firewalls (in companies) and you have to install additionally software (which may be interfere with existing software...). We do not need the "egg-laying, milk-bearing woolly sow" software. May be the support is moving to a web based forum or a nntp-system or whatever. We just need reliable access to the support. Simple that.

However. Any other solution is better than the forum here. At least AtoZed has to make a decision, NOW!!! Either this forum gets reliable (puh) by pressure of ATOZED and customers (and this did not work. I tried it with Embaracderos office in Germany; They do not have any interesst into this forum; Best regards to M. Eissing) or the support is moving to a new destination..
BUT DO IT NOW!!! (Sorry for the loud words)

Sven

Remy Lebeau (TeamB) wrote:
Sven wrote:

Chad, can you tell us which software you are using for the nntp-channel?
I was unable to connect to the server. I tried several program under OSX
and Windows and I was always unable connect to the news.atozed.server
(Yes, I checked the firewall for port 119;-) )

I have never had any trouble connecting to news.atozed.com on port 119 using
several different newsreaders over the years.

and, I will not start a thread about modern support environments: But
why not using google groups or any other web based solution (this is
at least better until you a have a good solution than the old nntp
protocol;

There is nothing wrong with NNTP, and many support people still prefer it
over anything else. I speak for myself when I say that I can be a LOT more
productive in an NNTP environment than any other. Web forums are just too
slow and restricting.

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Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
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  Posted: May 12, 2015 4:27 AM   in response to: Sven Heuer in response to: Sven Heuer
On 5/12/2015 6:43 AM, Sven Heuer wrote:
Only that you have to configure firewalls (in companies) and you have
to install additionally software (which may be interfere with
existing software...). We do not need the "egg-laying, milk-bearing
woolly sow" software. May be the support is moving to a web based
forum or a nntp-system or whatever. We just need reliable access to
the support. Simple that.

Our NNTP is reliable. It has been running for over a decade. It was
always there, but in read only. So all we did was turn back on write access.

We realize that some users want WWW, some want NNTP. In this short
period we were not able to provide a solution which does both. So we
chose NNTP, it was already running and I refuse to use a web forum. Its
to slow and too poorly featured.

In the future we hope to offer both again and will investigate ready to
run NNTP gateways for WWW. But there are a lot of priorities right now
with the top 2 being redoing our website, and moving on IW 15 hard.

However. Any other solution is better than the forum here. At least
AtoZed has to make a decision, NOW!!! Either this forum gets
reliable (puh) by pressure of ATOZED and customers (and this did not

We've been pressuring for months, as have customers.

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  Posted: May 12, 2015 7:50 AM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
Hi Chad

maybe you can ask CGDevTools about their forum system?
they use a really good and user friendly system.

i don't know what it takes to start a forum system, just a suggestion...
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  Posted: May 13, 2015 6:18 AM   in response to: Eitan Arbel in response to: Eitan Arbel
On 5/12/2015 10:50 AM, Eitan Arbel wrote:
maybe you can ask CGDevTools about their forum system?
they use a really good and user friendly system.

i don't know what it takes to start a forum system, just a suggestion...

It doesn't have NNTP. NNTP is a requirement. WWW is a feature - very
wanted, but NNTP is a requirement.

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  Posted: May 13, 2015 9:52 AM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
Chad Hower wrote:
On 5/12/2015 10:50 AM, Eitan Arbel wrote:
maybe you can ask CGDevTools about their forum system?
they use a really good and user friendly system.

i don't know what it takes to start a forum system, just a suggestion...

It doesn't have NNTP. NNTP is a requirement. WWW is a feature - very
wanted, but NNTP is a requirement.

With enough interest, someone could determine if there is enough info in scraping html to feed a newsreader. Ex: An alternate front end to XanaNews might be able to get the data it needs from rote actions on the web interface (see my comment re TAPCIS above). We had pretty much full TAPCIS functionality including post/reply, seamlessly. There is no need for you/us to know whether it is NNTP or something else... API is API.

No I'm not your guy for that (I'm probably close to you on the busy meter), just wanted to point out the option.

There are a lot of good web based options out there, as you know. One of the aviation forums I like most (www.BeechTalk.com) is phpBB based (GNU open source) so poking data islands into the html is either easy or has already been done. I've only been a user of that, have not looked into the software itself. Hmmmm.... maybe an NNTP port could be put into that project?

Dan <with way more ideas than time>
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  Posted: May 13, 2015 3:09 PM   in response to: Dan Barclay in response to: Dan Barclay
I hate to mention this, but news.atozed.com has not been responding for us all day.

Is there a black cloud following us?

Dan
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  Posted: May 14, 2015 10:05 AM   in response to: Dan Barclay in response to: Dan Barclay
On 5/13/2015 6:09 PM, Dan Barclay wrote:
I hate to mention this, but news.atozed.com has not been responding for us all day.

Can you to do a tracert? Im set to check every 15 minutes and there are
no connection errors for me....

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  Posted: May 14, 2015 11:05 AM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
Can you to do a tracert? Im set to check every 15 minutes and there are
no connection errors for me....

i keep getting "Request timed out"

i installed the Mozilla Thunderbird, but couldn't get connected since

Thanks
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  Posted: May 19, 2015 4:17 AM   in response to: Eitan Arbel in response to: Eitan Arbel
On 5/14/2015 2:05 PM, Eitan Arbel wrote:
i installed the Mozilla Thunderbird, but couldn't get connected since

They are back up. PHPBB went wild and consumed all the RAM on the server
and starved NNTP and other services.

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  Posted: May 14, 2015 1:43 PM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
Chad Hower wrote:
On 5/13/2015 6:09 PM, Dan Barclay wrote:
I hate to mention this, but news.atozed.com has not been responding for us all day.

Can you to do a tracert? Im set to check every 15 minutes and there are
no connection errors for me....

Here is one from Olympia, WA. USA:

C:\Windows\system32>tracert news.atozed.com

Tracing route to e.atozed.com [212.227.134.81] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.254
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 13 ms 11 ms 13 ms te-0-7-0-8-sur02.tumwater.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.87.205.129]
4 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms be-44-ar01.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net [69.139.164.22]
5 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms be-33650-cr02.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.93.165]
6 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms he-0-13-0-1-pe04.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.82.238]
7 19 ms 16 ms 15 ms ae-19.r04.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.66.57]
8 14 ms 16 ms 18 ms ae-6.r21.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.44]
9 80 ms 98 ms 94 ms ae-7.r22.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.4.14]
10 162 ms 151 ms 162 ms ae-5.r22.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.127]
11 160 ms 161 ms 174 ms ae-1.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.25]
12 153 ms 151 ms 151 ms ae-2.r02.londen01.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.1]
13 160 ms 159 ms 163 ms ae-1.r03.londen01.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.37]
14 155 ms 154 ms 155 ms 212.119.29.78
15 161 ms 159 ms 159 ms te-3-1.bb-d.bv.crb.fr.oneandone.net [212.227.120.25]
16 178 ms 179 ms 179 ms xe-0-2-1.bb-a.bap.rhr.de.oneandone.net [212.227.120.42]
17 212 ms 179 ms 179 ms ae-2.gw-distp-a.kw.nbz.fr.oneandone.net [195.20.243.35]
18 190 ms 179 ms 180 ms ae-1.gw-prtr-a0204-a.kw.nbz.fr.oneandone.net [195.20.243.72]
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

Looks like it dies in France. <insert French joke here>

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Kevin McCoy wrote:
Chad Hower wrote:
On 5/13/2015 6:09 PM, Dan Barclay wrote:
I hate to mention this, but news.atozed.com has not been responding for us all day.

Can you to do a tracert? Im set to check every 15 minutes and there are
no connection errors for me....

Here is one from Olympia, WA. USA:

C:\Windows\system32>tracert news.atozed.com

Tracing route to e.atozed.com [212.227.134.81] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.254
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 13 ms 11 ms 13 ms te-0-7-0-8-sur02.tumwater.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.87.205.129]
4 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms be-44-ar01.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net [69.139.164.22]
5 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms be-33650-cr02.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.93.165]
6 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms he-0-13-0-1-pe04.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.82.238]
7 19 ms 16 ms 15 ms ae-19.r04.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.66.57]
8 14 ms 16 ms 18 ms ae-6.r21.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.44]
9 80 ms 98 ms 94 ms ae-7.r22.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.4.14]
10 162 ms 151 ms 162 ms ae-5.r22.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.127]
11 160 ms 161 ms 174 ms ae-1.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.25]
12 153 ms 151 ms 151 ms ae-2.r02.londen01.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.1]
13 160 ms 159 ms 163 ms ae-1.r03.londen01.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.37]
14 155 ms 154 ms 155 ms 212.119.29.78
15 161 ms 159 ms 159 ms te-3-1.bb-d.bv.crb.fr.oneandone.net [212.227.120.25]
16 178 ms 179 ms 179 ms xe-0-2-1.bb-a.bap.rhr.de.oneandone.net [212.227.120.42]
17 212 ms 179 ms 179 ms ae-2.gw-distp-a.kw.nbz.fr.oneandone.net [195.20.243.35]
18 190 ms 179 ms 180 ms ae-1.gw-prtr-a0204-a.kw.nbz.fr.oneandone.net [195.20.243.72]
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

Looks like it dies in France. <insert French joke here>

Same here:
Trace command used: tracert news.atozed.com

Tracing route to e.atozed.com [212.227.134.81]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
<snip home base>
3 7 ms 9 ms 7 ms tge7-1.orngtx0902h.texas.rr.com [66.25.225.153]
4 10 ms 12 ms 11 ms tge0-8-0-9.bumutx2801r.texas.rr.com [24.175.61.248]
5 17 ms 15 ms 20 ms agg28.hstqtxl301r.texas.rr.com [24.175.61.76]
6 15 ms 11 ms 13 ms bu-ether36.hstqtx0209w-bcr00.tbone.rr.com [107.14.17.138]
7 18 ms 19 ms 20 ms bu-ether12.dllstx976iw-bcr00.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.39]
8 19 ms 18 ms 17 ms 0.ae4.pr1.dfw10.tbone.rr.com [107.14.19.97]
9 19 ms 18 ms 17 ms 207.86.210.125
10 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms 207.88.14.182.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.182]
11 44 ms 44 ms 43 ms te-4-1-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.129]
12 46 ms 47 ms 45 ms 207.88.12.98.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.98]
13 128 ms 128 ms 128 ms ae0d0.cir1.amsterdam2-nh.nl.xo.net [207.88.13.197]
14 143 ms 127 ms 128 ms amsix.bb-c.nkf.ams.nl.oneandone.net [80.249.208.220]
15 157 ms 149 ms 149 ms te-4-1.bb-c.act.fra.de.oneandone.net [212.227.120.130]
16 209 ms 143 ms 149 ms te-1-5.bb-c.bs.kae.de.oneandone.net [212.227.120.184]
17 142 ms 141 ms 142 ms ae-2.gw-distp-a.kw.nbz.fr.oneandone.net [195.20.243.35]
18 145 ms * 146 ms ae-1.gw-prtr-a0204-a.kw.nbz.fr.oneandone.net [195.20.243.72]
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

I figure it's the NSA tinkering with routerss, but that's just me.

Is it paranoia when they really are out to get us? <g>

More info: "tracert www.atozed.com" also stops in the same place, although the web page comes up in the browser just fine. The only difference is that it starts with:
"Tracing route to web.atozed.com [82.165.128.89]"

Of course ping times out on both.

Dan
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  Posted: May 15, 2015 10:36 AM   in response to: Dan Barclay in response to: Dan Barclay
news.atozed.com is responding again here in Texas USA, at the moment.

I was able to post a test message there and retrieve it.

Dan
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  Posted: May 15, 2015 4:36 AM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
Chad,

no, NNTP is NOT a requirement (you used this unreliable web forum for years and this was ok for you). NNTP is just a technology.
A reliable system is currently the requirement. And as you can see, your NNTP server is not available.

Keep IT simple.

Sven
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  Posted: May 20, 2015 1:25 PM   in response to: Sven Heuer in response to: Sven Heuer
On 5/15/2015 7:36 AM, Sven Heuer wrote:
no, NNTP is NOT a requirement (you used this unreliable web forum for years and this was ok for you). NNTP is just a technology.

It IS a requirement for us. I do NOT use the web forum software here and
never have. I am posting right now using NNTP.

A reliable system is currently the requirement. And as you can see, your NNTP server is not available.

It is available. There was a small hiccup unrelated to our NNTP which
affected the whole server. And today for the first time in several years
our hosting provider will take it offline for maint of the infrastucture
for 2 hours. Things happen.

The forums that have been mostly down for the last year are EMBTs, not ours.

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  Posted: May 21, 2015 2:54 PM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
Fyi, not responding here in the USA again. xananews gets a timeout.

tracert is the same as posted last time, lost in .fr

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  Posted: May 22, 2015 5:07 AM   in response to: Dan Barclay in response to: Dan Barclay
On 5/21/2015 5:54 PM, Dan Barclay wrote:
Fyi, not responding here in the USA again. xananews gets a timeout.

tracert is the same as posted last time, lost in .fr

We found that it doesnt come up after a reboot all the time. I think its
coming up before the DB since some SP change. I've changed it to delayed
start and hope this will fix it.

Until then if you do see it down feel free to alert me directly by email
and I'll reset the service.

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  Posted: May 22, 2015 5:07 AM   in response to: Dan Barclay in response to: Dan Barclay
Not responding from The Netherlands either.
Windows Live mail too gets a timeout.

And also, tracert is dying in .fr

Regards, Paul

"Dan Barclay" schreef in bericht news:724514 at forums dot embarcadero dot com...

Fyi, not responding here in the USA again. xananews gets a timeout.

tracert is the same as posted last time, lost in .fr

Dan
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  Posted: May 22, 2015 6:27 AM   in response to: Registered User in response to: Registered User
On 5/22/2015 8:07 AM, Registered User wrote:
Not responding from The Netherlands either.
Windows Live mail too gets a timeout.

I'm in right now to our NNTP and I am quite remote from our server. When
did you try last?

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  Posted: May 26, 2015 12:38 AM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
It's working now. Seems like we allmost posted at the same time, me
complaining that it wasn't working and you telling us you fixed it :-)

Regards, Paul

"Chad Hower" schreef in bericht news:724545 at forums dot embarcadero dot com...

On 5/22/2015 8:07 AM, Registered User wrote:

Not responding from The Netherlands either.
Windows Live mail too gets a timeout.

I'm in right now to our NNTP and I am quite remote from our server. When
did you try last?

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  Posted: May 26, 2015 3:05 PM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
Chad Hower wrote:
On 5/22/2015 8:07 AM, Registered User wrote:
Not responding from The Netherlands either.
Windows Live mail too gets a timeout.

I'm in right now to our NNTP and I am quite remote from our server. When
did you try last?

My report was for the time/date on the message. I posted here after I retried the connection and got the tracert. I noticed that this forum was (surprisingly) up at the time so passed along my observation.

I was offline for some time and didn't see your question above. It is working now.

(edit) Using Xananews for the atozed.

Dan

Edited by: Dan Barclay on May 26, 2015 5:07 PM
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Embarcadero forums are catastrofic. One day work one day not. Both http
and nntp.

Zdenek
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On 5/28/2015 11:28 AM, Zdenek Vasku wrote:
Embarcadero forums are catastrofic. One day work one day not. Both http
and nntp.

Yep :(

Aside from a small issue I fixed last week on startup (was starting
before the DB) our NNTP has been running with out issues for well over a
decade.

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  Posted: May 8, 2015 5:09 AM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
hi, Chad!

Could you please run again your web application to access the nntp server? For somebody it would be more easy to work with it through the web interface.

Chad Hower wrote:
Third attempt to post..

nntp
news.atozed.com

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  Posted: May 10, 2015 3:28 PM   in response to: Alexander Popov in response to: Alexander Popov
yes, a web interface would be nice

Thanks guys
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  Posted: May 10, 2015 9:47 PM   in response to: Alexander Popov in response to: Alexander Popov
Perhaps something like this would work....http://web-news.sourceforge.net/

I will give Thunderbird a try.

Cheers!

Alexander Popov wrote:
hi, Chad!

Could you please run again your web application to access the nntp server? For somebody it would be more easy to work with it through the web interface.

Chad Hower wrote:
Third attempt to post..

nntp
news.atozed.com

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Cannot connect to NNTP server 212.227.134.81 (212.227.134.81:119), NB connect error 1460
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On 5/14/2015 3:07 PM, C.H. Chiang wrote:
Cannot connect to NNTP server 212.227.134.81 (212.227.134.81:119), NB connect error 1460

Try again please.

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  Posted: Jun 5, 2015 6:32 AM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
The news server have 22 groups. most of them are last from year 2011. A bit is year 2036... . No one post is year 2015.

How and where... ???
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On 6/5/2015 9:32 AM, C.H. Chiang wrote:
The news server have 22 groups. most of them are last from year 2011. A bit is year 2036... . No one post is year 2015.

The IntraWeb group has over a dozens messages from this week alone. I'm
not sure where you are looking....

The CrossTalk group has messages from recent weeks as well.

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  Posted: Jun 6, 2015 7:48 AM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
Chad Hower wrote:
On 6/5/2015 9:32 AM, C.H. Chiang wrote:
The news server have 22 groups. most of them are last from year 2011. A bit is year 2036... . No one post is year 2015.

The IntraWeb group has over a dozens messages from this week alone. I'm
not sure where you are looking....

The CrossTalk group has messages from recent weeks as well.

I'm looking intraweb general. Using thunderbird. There having too much message and most outdated likely.
I suggest renew its and redefined by aim and version.

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  Posted: Jun 6, 2015 7:56 AM   in response to: Chad Hower in response to: Chad Hower
Chad Hower wrote:
On 6/5/2015 9:32 AM, C.H. Chiang wrote:
The news server have 22 groups. most of them are last from year 2011. A bit is year 2036... . No one post is year 2015.

The IntraWeb group has over a dozens messages from this week alone. I'm
not sure where you are looking....

The CrossTalk group has messages from recent weeks as well.


I'm looking intraweb general. Using thunderbird. There having too much message and most outdated likely.
I suggest renew its and redefined by aim and version.

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  Posted: Jun 6, 2015 10:41 AM   in response to: C.H. Chiang in response to: C.H. Chiang
C.H. Chiang wrote:
Chad Hower wrote:
On 6/5/2015 9:32 AM, C.H. Chiang wrote:
The news server have 22 groups. most of them are last from year 2011. A bit is year 2036... . No one post is year 2015.

The IntraWeb group has over a dozens messages from this week alone. I'm
not sure where you are looking....

The CrossTalk group has messages from recent weeks as well.


I'm looking intraweb general. Using thunderbird. There having too much message and most outdated likely.
I suggest renew its and redefined by aim and version.


You should see the newsgroup "atozedsoftware.intraweb" on the server "news.atozed.com"

Dan
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  Posted: Jun 12, 2015 5:53 AM   in response to: C.H. Chiang in response to: C.H. Chiang
On 6/6/2015 10:56 AM, C.H. Chiang wrote:
I'm looking intraweb general. Using thunderbird. There having too much message and most outdated likely.
I suggest renew its and redefined by aim and version.

Lots of messages are good - its archives. Just filter to the newest ones
- most readers do that automatically.


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